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Progress not perfection (take 2)

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night_west
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Long post, sorry. Ozempic (semaglutide): what actually has human evidence behind it, and what is extrapolation from animals?

Tolerance and underdosing look identical from the inside, which is why the answer is usually a blood test and not more forums.

The animal data is stronger than the human data and the human data is not nothing, it is just small.

Baseline first. Without a baseline the after picture is decoration.

Interested in the methods more than the conclusion.



   
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notcharlotte
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A certificate of analysis answers one question and gets quoted as though it answers four.



   
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lilaclad43
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An inconclusive account is useful if it stops the next person mistaking a story for a controlled comparison.



   
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Alex
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A plausible mechanism is not an outcome, and this class is the textbook example.



   
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Selfhelp
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Baseline first.



   
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jadesea10
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An inconclusive account is useful if it stops the next person mistaking a story for a controlled comparison.



   
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The-Alchimist
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Is a baseline blood test really necessary before starting something like this? Same for me with semaglutide, unfortunately.



   
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moorgate78
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Test one thing at a time. It feels slower and it is the only way to learn anything.



   
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emberhound
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Loose evidence and no evidence are different, and people overcorrect in both directions.



   
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bowweald
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Sleep, food, or the compound? Yes. Sulphur burps was my main issue with semaglutide too.



   
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JuliaS
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What is the first thing you would read if you were starting from zero?



   
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wold_hearth
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An inconclusive account is useful if it stops the next person mistaking a story for a controlled comparison. How long have you been on semaglutide?



   
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maple_pike
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Same here.



   
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thornrill32
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Log dose, time and sleep. Ten seconds a day and it turns the anecdote into something you can look at.



   
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wold5107
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Log dose, time and sleep. Ten seconds a day and it turns the anecdote into something you can look at. Not on semaglutide but the pattern is familiar.



   
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