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Is this a miracle?

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pawprint
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I have been running epitalon for six weeks and the honest summary is that the effect is smaller than the internet suggests and real.

Tolerance and underdosing look identical from the inside, which is why the answer is usually a blood test and not more forums.

The effect size I actually noticed is roughly a third of what the write-ups imply, and it took six weeks to be sure.

Vivid dreams and mild headache for the first 4 days, then nothing. Textbook for this class, apparently.

Most of the popular protocols are borrowed from clinical populations and applied to healthy people without comment.

Anyone got a paper worth reading on this rather than a write-up of a paper?



   
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sagehinge76
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Narrow conclusion, briefly right. Broad conclusion, interestingly wrong. I know which I keep choosing.



   
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hazeknee33
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What is the first thing you would read if you were starting from zero? Same for me with epitalon, unfortunately.



   
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sage_dot
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What is the first thing you would read if you were starting from zero?



   
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PeakLily
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An inconclusive account is useful if it stops the next person mistaking a story for a controlled comparison.



   
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lunarbay82
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If it needs three other compounds to notice, you have not tested the first one. Injection site reaction was my main issue with epitalon too.



   
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vellum_lee
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Read methods.



   
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night9434
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Narrow conclusion, briefly right. Broad conclusion, interestingly wrong. I know which I keep choosing. Six weeks in on epitalon and it lines up.



   
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lodenight
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Sleep, food, or the compound? Yes.



   
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Musing
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Loose evidence is not nothing, but a washout either side is the only reason to trust your own take.



   
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Admin
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Name the active ingredient, not just the brand. It makes these threads searchable years later.



   
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