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What happens if you take too much phenibut?

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echo4271
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Trying to separate three different claims about noopept: that it is the right molecule, that it is the right dose, and that it does something useful.

The animal data is stronger than the human data and the human data is not nothing, it is just small.

What the racetam class does pharmacologically does not require the subjective effect to be large to be real.

What surprised me is how much of the perceived benefit was routine and attention rather than pharmacology.

What is the strongest human evidence anyone here has actually read, not skimmed?



   
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snowmaple
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Most of what is called evidence here is one person, one vial, one month.



   
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scaurjewel
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Is a baseline blood test really necessary before starting something like this?



   
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reeflinden16
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Name the active ingredient, not just the brand. It makes these threads searchable years later.



   
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kneeember
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Is a baseline blood test really necessary before starting something like this?



   
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pebble_host
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Test one thing at a time. It feels slower and it is the only way to learn anything.



   
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brook6858
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Baseline first.



   
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moor2099
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I would take the narrow conclusion. Broad ones are more interesting and less true.



   
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moorhail4
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Same here.



   
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calgal
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Log dose, time and sleep. Ten seconds a day and it turns the anecdote into something you can look at.



   
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lyme1187
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Is a baseline blood test really necessary before starting something like this?



   
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amberlad78
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Same here.



   
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glacier1390
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Baseline first. Without a baseline the after picture is decoration.



   
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maple_clock
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Narrow conclusion, briefly right. Broad conclusion, interestingly wrong. I know which I keep choosing.



   
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