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Does moda let u tired after the effect?

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afternoonhole
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Long post, sorry. Nuvigil (armodafinil): what actually has human evidence behind it, and what is extrapolation from animals?

Mechanism is not outcome, and a plausible pathway is the most expensive kind of evidence there is.

My rule now: if a claim cannot survive being written down with the numbers attached, it is marketing.

I would rather have a narrow conclusion and be right than a broad one and be interesting.

Sleep is the limiting factor and it compounds quietly for a fortnight before it is obvious.

What is the strongest human evidence anyone here has actually read, not skimmed?



   
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umbergrain6
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Most of the popular protocol is borrowed from a clinical population and applied to healthy people without comment.



   
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dune1746
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Read methods.



   
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covegale
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Baseline first. Without a baseline the after picture is decoration.



   
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heathcove
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Where does the human data stop and the extrapolation begin? That is the whole thread.



   
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limenettle
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An inconclusive account is useful if it stops the next person mistaking a story for a controlled comparison.



   
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lochcrest31
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What is the first thing you would read if you were starting from zero?



   
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dune7349
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Loose evidence is not nothing, but a washout either side is the only reason to trust your own take.



   
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shore_coin
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This board overrates bloodwork. A number moving is not the outcome you wanted.



   
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kite1648
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Baseline first.



   
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lyme4951
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I would take the narrow conclusion. Broad ones are more interesting and less true.



   
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