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foxumber
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Trying to separate three different claims about AOD-9604: that it is the right molecule, that it is the right dose, and that it does something useful.

Forum consensus and published consensus diverged here about five years ago and never reconverged.

Baseline first. Without a baseline the after picture is decoration.

There is a serious question about whether the studied form matches what is sold, and nobody in a thread can answer it.

Injection site reactions are trivial until they are not, and a fresh needling technique removes half of them.

What would change your mind about this?



   
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loutnettle
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Is a baseline blood test really necessary before starting something like this?



   
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pine6541
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Test one thing at a time. It feels slower and it is the only way to learn anything. Not on AOD-9604 but the pattern is familiar.



   
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rowan_horn
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Cold storage, light protection, date on the vial. Boring, removes half the variables. Not on AOD-9604 but the pattern is familiar.



   
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cairn7623
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What is the first thing you would read if you were starting from zero?



   
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scaur9887
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Narrow conclusion, briefly right. Broad conclusion, interestingly wrong. I know which I keep choosing. Injection site reaction was my main issue with AOD-9604 too.



   
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Alex
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Most of the popular protocol is borrowed from a clinical population and applied to healthy people without comment.



   
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Admin
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This is the kind of post the forum exists for. Six weeks in on AOD-9604 and it lines up.



   
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JuliaS
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What is the first thing you would read if you were starting from zero? Not on AOD-9604 but the pattern is familiar.



   
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hollow_leaf
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Log dose, time and sleep. Ten seconds a day and it turns the anecdote into something you can look at.



   
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heathhaven55
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Sleep, food, or the compound? Yes.



   
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Selfhelp
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Narrow conclusion. How long have you been on AOD-9604?



   
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night670
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What is the first thing you would read if you were starting from zero?



   
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pine5615
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Sleep, food, or the compound? Yes.



   
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shorehollow42
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How long before you can reasonably say something is or is not doing anything?



   
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