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What other nootropic is closest to phenibut that doesnt have a cross tolerance?

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LunarHamlet
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Long post, sorry. Ginkgo biloba: what actually has human evidence behind it, and what is extrapolation from animals?

The comparison group matters more than the compound when the outcome is something as fuzzy as focus.

Tolerance and underdosing look identical from the inside, which is why the answer is usually a blood test and not more forums.

The evidence is usually a handful of small trials and the effect is modest.

How do you separate the compound effect from the routine around it?



   
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JuliaS
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Is a baseline blood test really necessary before starting something like this?



   
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lodeember
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How long before you can reasonably say something is or is not doing anything?



   
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tideleaf85
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Narrow conclusion, briefly right. Broad conclusion, interestingly wrong. I know which I keep choosing.



   
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oaklatch45
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Narrow conclusion.



   
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dahlia1882
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Narrow conclusion.



   
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windbrook
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Loose evidence is not nothing, but a washout either side is the only reason to trust your own take.



   
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vine79
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Narrow conclusion.



   
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glacierkiln18
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Sleep, food, or the compound? Yes.



   
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glen_isle
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Stupid question: how do you know whether what is in the vial matches the label at all?



   
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reefhive95
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Nobody has ever been talked out of a stack by a stranger on the internet.



   
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pike6138
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Is a baseline blood test really necessary before starting something like this? Same for me with ginkgo biloba, unfortunately.



   
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juniper8751
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Is a baseline blood test really necessary before starting something like this?



   
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garnetlynx32
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Baseline first.



   
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Where does the human data stop and the extrapolation begin? That is the whole thread. Same for me with ginkgo biloba, unfortunately.



   
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