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Moda Effect after 3 days

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nimbushamlet16
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Long post, sorry. Nuvigil (armodafinil): what actually has human evidence behind it, and what is extrapolation from animals?

Vivid dreams and mild headache for the first 13 days, then nothing. Textbook for this class, apparently.

I have started logging dose, time, and sleep because otherwise the anecdote is just a mood.

The animal data is stronger than the human data and the human data is not nothing, it is just small.

The comparison group matters more than the compound when the outcome is something as fuzzy as focus.

Tolerance builds fastest when it is taken for extra hours rather than extra work.

What is the strongest human evidence anyone here has actually read, not skimmed?



   
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fablelime41
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This is the kind of post the forum exists for.



   
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crag2433
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Where does the human data stop and the extrapolation begin? That is the whole thread. How long have you been on armodafinil?



   
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Bawston
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Sterility is the part people wave through and it is the part that actually bites. Not on armodafinil but the pattern is familiar.



   
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hazel_lotus
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Stupid question: how do you know whether what is in the vial matches the label at all?



   
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weald_bow
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Same here.



   
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glencoin16
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Stupid question: how do you know whether what is in the vial matches the label at all? Not on armodafinil but the pattern is familiar.



   
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cairn_brook
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A plausible mechanism is not an outcome, and this class is the textbook example.



   
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zephyrglass
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Baseline first. Four months in on armodafinil and it lines up.



   
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hubloch
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Cold storage, light protection, date on the vial. Boring, removes half the variables.



   
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grovewren
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This board overrates bloodwork. A number moving is not the outcome you wanted.



   
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The-Alchimist
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Stupid question: how do you know whether what is in the vial matches the label at all?



   
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WrenChain
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Where does the human data stop and the extrapolation begin? That is the whole thread.



   
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yarrow_knot
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Baseline first.



   
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pebblefern78
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Baseline first.



   
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