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Horrific side effects from modafinil

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thornhorn97
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Long post, sorry. Provigil (modafinil): what actually has human evidence behind it, and what is extrapolation from animals?

Cold storage, light protection, and a date on the vial. Boring, and it removes half the variables.

Two weeks is not enough time to attribute anything to a compound unless the effect is dramatic.

I would rather have a narrow conclusion and be right than a broad one and be interesting.

What would change your mind about this?



   
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glintwold
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Same here.



   
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garnetjar3
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Underdosing and tolerance are indistinguishable from the inside, and everyone picks the flattering explanation.



   
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JuliaS
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Is a baseline blood test really necessary before starting something like this?



   
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lanterntop61
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Is a baseline blood test really necessary before starting something like this?



   
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GranReserva
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Read the methods section. It is the only part that says whether the conclusion is allowed to exist.



   
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kilnhazel
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Stupid question: how do you know whether what is in the vial matches the label at all?



   
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pineflare9
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This board overrates bloodwork. A number moving is not the outcome you wanted. A fortnight in on modafinil and it lines up.



   
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fenlilac
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Narrow conclusion, briefly right. Broad conclusion, interestingly wrong. I know which I keep choosing. Appetite suppression was my main issue with modafinil too.



   
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jasperharp70
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Underdosing and tolerance are indistinguishable from the inside, and everyone picks the flattering explanation.



   
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echo_key
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Loose evidence is not nothing, but a washout either side is the only reason to trust your own take.



   
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kelp7302
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Narrow conclusion, briefly right. Broad conclusion, interestingly wrong. I know which I keep choosing.



   
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fablereader71
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Baseline first. Same for me with modafinil, unfortunately.



   
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hollow_glass
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Most of what is called evidence here is one person, one vial, one month.



   
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dingleberry
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This board overrates bloodwork. A number moving is not the outcome you wanted. A fortnight in on modafinil and it lines up.



   
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