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TRT on the NHS

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quetiapinequiet
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What an underdosed GH secretagogues actually looks like in practice, and why it is hard to tell apart from tolerance.

What surprised me is how much of the perceived benefit was routine and attention rather than pharmacology.

If you need three other compounds to notice the first one, you have not tested the first one.

The animal data is stronger than the human data and the human data is not nothing, it is just small.

Animal data is much of what exists here and the human stuff is thin and small.

Would like a narrow answer rather than an enthusiastic one.



   
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sable2168
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How long before you can reasonably say something is or is not doing anything?



   
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dingleberry
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Most of what is called evidence here is one person, one vial, one month.



   
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HazeGate
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Is a baseline blood test really necessary before starting something like this?



   
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echo_edge
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Test one thing at a time. It feels slower and it is the only way to learn anything.



   
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JuliaS
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Is a baseline blood test really necessary before starting something like this?



   
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viewlantern
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Underdosing and tolerance are indistinguishable from the inside, and everyone picks the flattering explanation. Not on GH secretagogues but the pattern is familiar.



   
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onyxwood87
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Is a baseline blood test really necessary before starting something like this?



   
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yarrowloom51
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Read methods.



   
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LarchBay
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Test one thing at a time. It feels slower and it is the only way to learn anything. Same for me with GH secretagogues, unfortunately.



   
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amber1114
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Loose evidence and no evidence are different, and people overcorrect in both directions.



   
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shore_ledge
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Baseline first.



   
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nessbay14
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Stupid question: how do you know whether what is in the vial matches the label at all?



   
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valechart54
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Stupid question: how do you know whether what is in the vial matches the label at all?



   
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irisdeck27
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Cold storage, light protection, date on the vial. Boring, removes half the variables.



   
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