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Not getting a pump

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Readgoat
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I have been running testosterone propionate for three years and the honest summary is that the effect is smaller than the internet suggests and real.

Baseline first. Without a baseline the after picture is decoration.

My rule now: if a claim cannot survive being written down with the numbers attached, it is marketing.

The last two weeks of a cycle and the first month after it are where most people feel worst.

Where does the human data stop and the extrapolation start?



   
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yetinight
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Loose evidence is not nothing, but a washout either side is the only reason to trust your own take.



   
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zephyr3025
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An inconclusive account is useful if it stops the next person mistaking a story for a controlled comparison. Acne was my main issue with testosterone propionate too.



   
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leeecho
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Loose evidence and no evidence are different, and people overcorrect in both directions.



   
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Green_Thumb
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Nobody has ever been talked out of a stack by a stranger on the internet.



   
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Blackbird123
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My rule, after years of this: if it cannot survive being written down with the numbers attached, it is marketing. Currently on testosterone propionate myself.



   
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yarrowridge
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Nobody has ever been talked out of a stack by a stranger on the internet.



   
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indigodot42
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Same here.



   
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OakEdge
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Narrow conclusion.



   
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Carter
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Baseline first. Three years in on testosterone propionate and it lines up.



   
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starglen
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How long before you can reasonably say something is or is not doing anything? Acne was my main issue with testosterone propionate too.



   
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lilac1391
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Read methods.



   
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Deanzer
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Nobody has ever been talked out of a stack by a stranger on the internet.



   
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cobalt_reader
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Same here.



   
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moss13
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Loose evidence is not nothing, but a washout either side is the only reason to trust your own take.



   
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